However, with the appellate decision still pending, Judge Murphy continued the conference again, now to January 4, 2018. Of note, Mrs Bush, "Bishop" Rhys Williams, and Mr and Mrs Creel from All Saints Fountain Valley were in court this morning. Williams represented the DOW and noted for the judge that they were "interviewing" attorneys but had not yet retained one. Nobody represented the Kangs and Frederick Rivers, the individual defendants.